MANN MAN genealogy | 26 January 2017 | |
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MANN family tree MANN family summary MANN ancestor chart |
Dr Geoffrey Mann geoff.mann@btinternet.com home page |
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| 1 Herbert Henry MANN | 2. Herbert Henry MANN 1861-1928 |
3 Henry MANN |
| spouse's records | m Lavinia Jessie SMITHERS 1886 |
| Herbert Henry was born in the little hamlet of Sutton near Rochford, but after a few years,
the family moved to Shoebury where his father built a row of Cottages (Elim) and established a
market garden. H.H. however wanted to be a carpenter and worked for nothing for his cousin
(name not known) from 1876 for a year or more to learn the trade. He later worked on buildings
in Southend, Stambridge (the new Rectory), Bromley in London and Shoebury in 1883.
He wrote a description of his life at this time which can be seen below HH married Lavinia at Shoebury St Andrews in 1886 in a double wedding with his sister Martha. Lavinia was a domestic servant, and in 1881 was visiting a family in Shoebury garrison, but it is not known how they met. They lived first in a house in Cambridge Rd, which was estimated to cost £95 in March 1887. They moved to a much larger house on the corner of West Rd and Church Rd and H.H. set up his own building firm, with his two sons, Bert the carpenter, and Wilfrid the painter and decorator. In 1926/7 a large workshop to serve the firm was built behind the first few houses in West Rd. Lavinia died in 1922 and when Bert married in 1926, a new pair of houses was built in Church Rd. H.H. moved into one of them with his unmarried son and daughter, Wilf and Dora. He suffered a heart attack after eating a Christmas meal, and died on 10 January 1928. His obituary in the Southend Standard claimed he "ranked amongst the most esteemed gentlemen of the district". Herbert Henry was the founder of the Shoebury Primitive Methodist Church, preacher, choirmaster, Sunday school superintendent, secretary of the trustees. |
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24Oct1861 22Dec1861 2Apr1871 9 26Oct1876 15 Aug1879 17 26Mar1881 19 3Apr1881 19 16Aug1881 19 29Aug1881 19 5Dec1881 20 11Jul1882 20 Feb1883 21 12Mar1886 24 28Dec1886 24 22 7Oct1887 25 22 20Nov1887 25 22 18Dec1888 27 24 19Apr1890 28 25 25May1890 28 25 27Jan1891 29 26 5Apr1891 29 26 24Sep1891 29 26 7Aug1892 30 27 31Mar1901 39 36 ? 1910 48 45 18Mar1922 60 57 25May1925 63 1926 64 ? 1927 10Jan1928 66 |
HH born at Sutton near Rochford HH christened at Primitive Methodist church, Rochford parish HH scholar with parents at Cockater Farm, S.Shoebury HH started work for nothing as a carpenter with his cousin began work for Steward in Southend at 3d an hour began work for Scott building houses in Shoebury carpenter with parents at Elim Cottages, Shoebury worked for a week at Stambridge began work for Alf Copping on houses in Bromley, London worked on New Rectory at Stambridge until 21Jan1882 worked for Alf Copping on houses in Southend until Feb1883 began work for Mr Alp in Shoebury 6d an hour bought plot of building land in Cambridge Rd m at St Andrews parish church, S Shoebury son Herbert Henry born at Elim Cottages, Shoebury; son HH baptised (in garrison church?) dau Dora Jessie born son Wilfred born Wilfrid baptised (in garrison church?) dau Dora baptised (in garrison church?) carpenter with wife and 3 children at 4 Cambridge Cottages, Shoebury son Harold Robin born son Harold Robin died; bur at S Shoebury parish church 19 Aug at “Aintree” on corner of West Rd and Chuch Rd with family and lodgers formed building firm HH Mann & Sons Lavinia died at Aintree Church Rd, Shoebury HH made last will firm’s workshop built in West Rd moved to new house in Church Rd also called "Aintree" (now no.35) HH died |
PRINCIPAL RECORDS
b=born m=married d=died
C=Christened B=Buried
BIRTH
certificate and baptismal certificate
Henry MANN boy b 24Oct1861 at Sutton
f: Henry MANN, gardener; m: Martha Ann MANN formerly WENDON
r 13Nov1861 at Rochford, ESS by Martha Ann MANN, mother, of Sutton,
C 22Dec1861 Herbert Henry s Henry & Martha Ann MANN, gardener of Sutton,
at Primitive Methodist, Maldon Mission, Rochford parish
MARRIAGE
certificate:
m 28Dec1886 at St Andrews, S Shoebury parish church after banns
Herbert Henry MANN bch, 25, carpenter of S Shoebury & Lavinia Jessica SMITHERS spr, 22, of S Shoebury
f: Henry MANN, market gardener; James SMITHERS;wit: Thomas FISHER, Henrietta FISHER, W W MANN, B HALLUM
DESCENDANTS
from Family Bible:
b 7Oct1887 Herbert Henry Mann at South Shoeburyb 18Dec1888 Dora Jessie at South Shoebury; d25Aug1953
b 19Apr1890 Wilfred at South Shoebury; d27Dec1947
b 24Sep1891 Harold Robin at South Shoebury; d 7Aug1892 at South Shoebury
certificates:
Herbert Henry MANN boy b 7Oct1887 at Elim Cottages, South Shoeburyf: Herbert Henry MANN, carpenter; m: Lavinia Jessie MANN formerly SMITHERS
r 15Nov1887 at Great Wakering, Rochford, ESS by Herbert Henry MANN, father, of Elim Cottages, South Shoebury,
Wilfrid MANN boy b 19Apr1890 at Elim Cottages, South Shoebury
f: Herbert Henry MANN, carpenter (master); m: Lavinia Jessie MANN formerly SMITHERS
r 3Jun1890 at Great Wakering, Rochford, ESS by Lavinia Jessie MANN, mother, of South Shoebury,
Baptismal certificates
baptised by Presbyterian Army Chaplain (in Shoebury Garrison?)C 20Nov1887 Shoeburyness b 7Oct1887 Shoeburyness Herbert Henry s Herbert Henry & Jessie MANN, carpenter
C 25May1890 Shoeburyness b 19Apr1890 Shoeburyness Wilfrid s Herbert Henry & Jessie MANN, carpenter
C 27Jan1891 Shoeburyness b 18Dec1888 Shoeburyness Dora Jessie d Herbert & Jessie MANN, carpenter
DEATH
certificates
d 18Mar1922 Lavinia Jessie MANN female 57, wife of Herbert Henry MANN, carpenter (master),at Aintree, Church Rd, Shoeburyness of cardiac failure
r 18Mar1922 Great Wakering, Rochford, ESS by H.H MANN, widower of deceased, Aintree, Church Rd, Shoeburyness pad
d 10Jan1928 Herbert Henry MANN male 66, builder and contractor, at Aintree, Church Rd, Shoeburyness, of cardiac failure
r 10Jan1928 at Great Wakering, Rochford, ESS by W MANN, son, of Aintree, Church Rd Shoeburyness
Will of Herbert Henry Mann, builder of Aintree, Church Rd
£8,400: to my son Herbert Henry Mann £500; to my daughter Dora Jessie Mann all personal and household effects, and my freehold house "Aintree" Church Rd. Shoeburyness; rest equally divided between my two sons Herbert Henry Mann and Wilfrid MannCENSUS
1871 South Shoebury ESS, Cockater Farm
RG10/1670 f72
Henry MANN he mar 38 1832 market gardener Ovington ESS
Martha A MANN wi mar 36 1834 Prittlewell ESS
Henrietta MANN da 11 1859 scholar Sutton ESS
Herbert MANN so 9 1859 scholar Sutton ESS
Walter MANN so 6 1864 scholar Sutton ESS
Martha A MANN da 3 1867 Shoeburyness ESS
Henry E MANN so 7m 1870 Shoeburyness ESS
1881 South Shoebury, ESS, 1 Elim Cottages
RG11/1772 f76
Henry MANN he mar 48 1832 market gardener Ovington ESS
Martha MANN wi mar 46 1834 Prittlewell ESS
Henrietta MANN da unm 21 1859 dressmaker Sutton ESS
Herbert MANN so unm 19 1861 carpenter Sutton ESS
Walter MANN so unm 16 1864 gardener Sutton ESS
Martha MANN da 13 1867 scholar Shoeburyness
Henry MANN so 10 1870 scholar Shoeburyness
Rosetta MANN da 8 1872 scholar Shoeburyness
Hugh MANN so 5 1875 Shoeburyness
Caroline MANN da 3 1877 [error for Evaline] Shoeburyness
1891 South Shoebury ESS, 1 Elim Cottage
RG12/1394 f58
Henry MANN he mar 59 1831 market gardener Ovington ESS
Martha A MANN wi mar 56 1834 Southend
Walter W MANN so sin 26 1864 market gardener Sutton ESS
Henry E MANN so sin 20 1870 market gardener Shoeburyness
Rosetta MANN da sin 18 1872 dressmaker Shoeburyness
Archer H D MANN so sin 15 1875 plumber's assistant Shoeburyness
Evaline MANN da 13 1877 scholar Shoeburyness
Norman W MANN so 8 1882 scholar Shoeburyness
Marianne MANN ni 19 1871 school assistant mistress Stambourne
Elizabeth A WENDON sl sin
72 1818 Southchurch
(imbecile)
1891 South Shoebury ESS, 4 Cambridge Cottages
RG12/1394 f88
Herbert H MANN he mar 29 1861 carpenter Sutton, ESS
Lavinia J MANN wi mar 26 1864 Mile End, London
Herbert H MANN so 3 1887 Shoeburyness ESS
Dora J MANN da 2 1889 Shoeburyness ESS
Wilfred MANN so 11m1890 Shoeburyness ESS
1901 Shoeburyness ESS, Aintree, West Rd
RG13/1686 f26
Herbert H MANN he mar 39 1862 carpenter worker Sutton, ESS
Jessie L MANN wi mar 36 1865 London
Herbert H MANN so 13 1888 Shoeburyness ESS
Dora J MANN da 12 1889 Shoeburyness ESS
Wiilfred MANN so 10 1891 Shoeburyness ESS
Elizabeth E FINCH bo sin 29 1872 nurse domestic Shoreham Sussex
Aphra J TYNDALL bo sin 17 1884 Ireland
Muriel B L TYNDALL bo 15 1886 Ascension Island W.African colony[?]
George H TYNDALL bo 7 Gosport
Madeline M TYNDALL bo 4 Gosport
Katherine A H TYNDALL bo 2 Southsea
bo=boarder
1911 South Shoebury ESS Aintree Church Rd, Shoeburyness
RG14PN10174 RG78PN534 RD195 SD3 ED5 SN450
Herbert Henry MANN he mar 49 1862 Carpenter and Joiner Sutton ESS
Lavinia Jessie MANN wi mar 46 1865 MDX
Herbert Henry MANN so sin 23 1888 Carpenter and Joiner South Shoebury ESS
Dora Jessie MANN da sin 22 1889 South Shoebury ESS
24 years married 4 children born 3 living
1911 56 Ranelagh Road Sheerness, Kent
Wilfred MANN bo sin 21 1890 House decorator Shoeburyness
With James HIGGLETON & Arthur LOWE decorators at home of James NORRIS Naval PensionerOTHER
Note written by HH Mann (see Essex Family Historian Feb 1996 p36)SHORT ACCOUNT OF HOW I LEARNT MY TRADE, AND THE MEN I HAVE WORKED FOR.
I had always thought, from the time that I was old enough to think anything about work, that I should like to be a carpenter, but how I was to learn the trade I did not know, as my father couldn't or wouldn't apprentice me. After I left school I was working for my father, driving chaises, working in the garden &c, till I was sixteen years old, and I had almost lost hope of ever being a carpenter at all.
When I was about sixteen, a cousin of mine, who was a carpenter, and who was going to build, offered to take me with him and learn me what he could, if I would go for nothing. Well, I went, on the 26th of October 1876, the day after my 16th birthday. I worked for him for some few months, when my father bought the building, and built some more after that was done I worked on all the buildings. When they were done of course I did not know my trade for they (the buildings) had not took much more than a year to build, and no one would take me, though I tried to get work in Southend so my father tried to get me on some firm in Southend and succeeded.
I went to work in Southend in August 1879 for a Mr STEWARD, he gave me 3d an hour, which was the first time in my life that I had received wages regularly. My father used to give me some money sometimes, but after I went to work for my cousin as a carpenter, he never gave me any at all, though I worked on his buildings for him. I worked for Steward for 3d an hour up till March 26th 1881, and then left and went to work for a Mr SCOTT of the same town. Scott was building some houses at my home, Shoebury, and my father thought it would be a good thing for me if I could get on for him, and live at home. So he asked Scott's foreman if he could take me, he said he could.
So I left Stewards, and went to work for Scott. I worked for Scott till August 13th when I was discharged, as he had not much work. Scott gave me 3d 1/2 an hour. I got another job at Stambridge on August 15th and started on Tuesday 16th, the job finished at the end of the week so I was discharged from there. The man's name was BLOOMFIELD, he gave me 7d an hour, quite a rise in life. After I left Stambridge, I stopped at home for a week, but couldn't find a job so I went up to London to look for a job there. When I had been in London nearly a week, I received a telegram from Alfred COPPING (who I worked with while I was at Stewards) asking me to come to Bromley if I had not got work. I accordingly went to Bromley, and got work, and started on Monday August 29th. I got 6 1/2 an hour. I was discharged on Saturday Oct 22nd on account of work being almost done.
I stopped at Bromley for a month after I was discharged looking for work, but couldn't succeed in finding any. So I had to come home, which I did on Saturday, Nov 19th. When I got home of course I had no work, so I had to stop at home and wish I had. When I had been at home a fortnight, I heard that some men were wanted at Stambridge at a New Rectory that was being built there. So I went to Stambridge and got work on Monday Dec 5th. I worked there till Saturday Jan 21st 1882. I received 6 1/2d an hour.
From Jan 21st 1882 until July 11th, I was at home out of work, then I got a job at Southend for Alf Copping who had taken 4 houses to do, he gave me 5d an hour. Worked for him up till 2nd week in Feb 1883, when the houses were nearly finished & Mr ALP of Shoebury came to the job & offered me work at 6d an hour. This I accepted as it was so much nearer home & also more money.
Purchase of land in Cambridge Rd
abstract of original documentAn Agreement made the 12th day of March 1886 between James Banyard of Shoeburyness, Gentleman (the vendor) and Mr Herbert Henry Mann of Shoeburyness, carpenter (the Purchaser) The Vendor agree to sell ….the piece of land described in the first schedule for £36 The sum of £7-10s has been paid on the signing hereof …..
The First Schedule: All that piece of land situate in S Shoebury being part of the hereditaments formerly known as Shoebury Hall Farm and formerly in the occupation of William Knapping since deceased……described in the plan …numbered 29 and 30
The Second Schedule: The purchaser shall within 6 months erect fences next the roads and on the sides and shall pay his proportion of the expenses of making the footpath and road….. No building shall be erected within 10 feet of the frontage No house is to be erected of less value that £100 in prime cost of materials and labour No building shall be built for the purpose of an Hotel public House Inn Tavern or Beershop or for a Wine Merchant or Licensed Victualler ….. nor shall any noisy noxious art trade or business be carried on ….. nor any dust ashes or filth stored ….. nor any gipsies or tramps be harboured …..